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( For retirees of the new Air Canada family)


Number 661  Feb 9th, 2002. We first published in October 1995.
Circulation: 2100+


Chief Pilot - Vesta Stevenson   -      Co-pilot  - Terry Baker


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. Need to know.
The Air Canada & Air Canada Regional Employee Travel Reference Grid. With
many travel reservation options now available to employees, we have created an
easy to follow Reference Grid. It’s designed to help employees know who to call
and what tool to use to register for travel. If you’re unable to access the
travel tools, call Employee Travel Services.
Air Canada & Air Canada Regional Employees, How To Book Your Travel:
For all self-ticketing personal and parent standby or business travel: Employee
Travel Website www.travel.aircanada.ca or Speech Recognition (888) 834-6660
Partner standby travel: ETW at www.travel.aircanada.ca
For all other travel related registrations, such as: Family Affair, ID & ZED
fares, Combined Priority Travel ­ such as C1/J10 with a partner as C2/Y10,
Anniversary passes, All non self-ticketing travel
PIN related questions: Employee Travel Services (800) 413-1113
Policy and CHIP related questions or problems: Employee Travel & Recognition
(800) 665-2560

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. News from the Districts -
Changing the guard in Vancouver Island Pionairs -
New director Wally Lamond has advised us of his new executive -
Asst Director Eric van der Holt ;
Treasurer Marjorie Thorpe;
Secretary Louise Falkenberg,;
exofficio RAP Cordinators
Shirley Williams from Victoria,
Lynn McDonagh from Parksville
Joan van der Holt from Courtenay

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.  Ken Bjorge sends this information -
"On a Wing and a Dream"
Featuring an interview with Ian Gray, who passed away this month, will be shown
on Vancouver TV Channel 11 on Feb 13th at 2200. For other locations consult
your local TV Guide.
Enjoy
Ken Bjorge

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. Vesta, our chief pilot sends these articles -
Lindbergh's Plane to Be Replicated
AP -- In 1927, Charles Lindbergh's solo New York-to-Paris
flight in the Spirit of St. Louis made him an instant hero
and international celebrity. Seventy-five years later
grandson Erik Lindbergh plans to replicate the flight in
the New Spirit of St. Louis, a modern single-engine plane
with a Global Positioning System, satellite phone and
e-mail capability. With an average cruising speed of
184 mph, Lindbergh expects to complete the trip in
191/2 hours. His grandfather's flight, which had a
cruising speed of 108 mph, took 331/2.

Subject: Subject: : Life in 2002
Let's see if I understand how the world works lately...
If a man cuts his finger off while slicing salami at work or if a
woman boils her groin from a coffee from McDonalds,
they blame the restaurant.
If you smoke three packs a day for 40 years and die of lung cancer,
your family blames the tobacco company.
If your neighbour crashes into a tree while driving home drunk,
he blames the bartender.
If your grandchildren are brats without manners,
you blame their friends and the television.
If your friend is shot by a deranged madman,
you blame the gun manufacturer
And if a crazed person breaks into the cockpit and tries to kill
the pilot at 35,000 feet, and the passengers kill him instead,
the mother of the deceased blames the airline.
I must have lived too long to understand the world as it is anymore.
So, if I die while my old, wrinkled butt is parked in front of this
computer, I want you to blame Bill Gates...okay?

N.S. MAN WINS CASE AGAINST ROTATING SHIFTS
A Nova Scotia man who said shift work left him exhausted and unable to
function has won his claim with the Workers' Compensation Board.

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. Alan Macleod sends this reminder -
Mark these dates on your calendar !!!
FEB. 13Th., Wed., 10PM GLOBAL ONTARIO TV,GLOBAL QUEBEC TV, GLOBAL B.C. TV
Feb.14Th., Thurs., 9PM GLOBAL REGINA/SAKSAKATOON/WINNIPEG TV
Feb.15Th., Fri., 10PM GLOBAL CALGARY/EDMONTON TV
Watch the TV documentary "ON WINGS AND DREAMS". This is the story about the men
who built Canada's Airlines. The Air Canada Lockheed Electra, CF-TCC, is used
in making part of this film.
then,
On SATURDAY, Feb 16th at 7PM, on the HISTORY CHANNEL watch the series
"Accomplishments of Women".
This is the story of Amelia Earheart and stars the Air Canada Lockheed Electra.

Alan

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A memory from N.A.Barbour of the Bristol Freighter -
In defence of the Bristol 170 - and I never thought I would come to the
defence of that ugly duckling - it had amazing lifting capability for just
two WW2-vintage piston engines. During a heavily loaded Winnipeg -Toronto
leg (a bit over "21 miles") we had to shut down one of them. In the cargo
bay "down stairs" we carried a complete Super Connie engine, including its
great nacelle, plus TWO complete RR Merlins - with room to spare for a few
"day old chicks" ! We just trundled on like a single-engine Cessna until
able to make a precautionary landing on a gravel strip north of Lake
Superior ('Pagwa'). Captain Ernie North did a superb job, and our greater
problem was fighting off the zillion black flies during our day and a half
there ! After repairs were made, I was most impressed (and very grateful)
that Captain Ernie was able to get the still fully loaded Bristol airborne
off the soft gravel strip - and over pine trees that looked a thousand feet
tall in the windscreen !
Some credit where it's due - from a "sadly uneducated expert".

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. Reminder -
"Name the Tail Contest" presented by the ACFamily Network
This is a fun contest to test your knowledge of 50 airline aircraft tail
graphics.
You can Win one of these four great Canadian Aviation Books...
- "Ace McCool -- Collector Edition"
- ALTIMETER RISING: My 50 Years in the Cockpit
- AVIATION MEMOIRS: A Love Affair With Flight
- NATIONAL TREASURE: The History of Trans-Canada Air Lines
(Contest  closes 2359 GMT February 23, 2002)
Visit www.acfamily.net/contest to see more information and contest rules.
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. Glen Cawker sends this follow up to the story in NetLetter 658 -
Hi!..It's the first time I'd seen Charles Mackie's story. Very well done,
Thanks to all. Incidentally Capt. Dal Woodard 's name doesn't have the second
'w' in it. Dal was killed when flying as a passenger in either Capt. Snyder's
Ste Therese accident or Capt.Pete Hamilton's Toronto 'spoiler' accident. (maybe
you can check it out to determine which)?. Dal had been attending a Flt
Operations ground-school course in Dorval and was going to YYZ on the
week-end.. He was a very short man and always used two very deep/high cushions
on his left seat when Captaining the North Stars. He stored the cushions on top
of his locker at the Dispatch Office, if I remember correctly.
You mentioned the loss of #204 at Mt. Slesse, (Captained by Johnny Clarke) and
that the wreck was 'recently' dicovered. It was discovered very early on and a
memorial has been set up on the mountain for a great number of years. Wasn't
the recently discovered missing A/C that of the Lockheed (Captained by Norm
Pike?) which went missing in the thirties or early fourties? ..Glen

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. Help!
Robert Pasquale < This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it >
Bob is having trouble concerning Sunlife Internet access using
IE6.0. I can't seem to get on the sign on page. I've read up the NGs and
spoken to Sunlife Tech Help Desk. One of us out there who reads your very
good newsletter may have found an answer to this snag.
Thanks Bob
(If anyone has an answer, please email Bob - eds)

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. BA to slash 16,000 jobs
The board of British Airways has approved
a plan to cut 16,000 jobs and change the airlines
routes and working-place practices, the UK weekend
press has reported. BA will also backtrack on its
plans to pull out of Gatwick airport as a hub and
make it its base for short-haul and low-cost
regional flights.

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. Terry's travel tips.
Dargal has these offerings -
*** DISNEY WORLD RESORTS ***
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Stay at a Walt Disney World Resort and SAVE 50% off brochure rates! (Hilton
Head and Vero Beach are not included.) Each resort has it's own magical
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*** DISNEY CRUISES ***
(REMEMBER... THESE RATES INCLUDE PORT CHARGES!)
7 Nights (Eastern Caribbean) ~ April 6, 20 & 27
ITINERARY: Port Canaveral, Florida; return
Inside $599, Deluxe Oceanview $699, Deluxe w/Navigator's Verandah $859,
Deluxe w/Verandah $909, Family Stateroom w/Verandah $1099, 3rd & 4th $599,
Child (3-12) $399, Infants (2 and under) pay port/gov't fees only
4 Nights ~ April 21
ITINERARY: Port Canaveral, Florida; return
Inside $399, Deluxe Oceanview $499, Deluxe w/Navigator's Verandah $589,
Deluxe w/Verandah $619, Family Stateroom w/Verandah $799, 3rd & 4th $349,
Child (3-12) $249, Infants (2 and under) pay port/gov't fees only
3 Nights ~ April 11 & 25
ITINERARY: Port Canaveral, Florida; Nassau, Bahamas; Castaway Cay; Port
Canaveral, Florida
Inside $349, Deluxe Oceanview $439, Deluxe w/Navigator's Verandah $499,
Deluxe w/Verandah $529, Family Stateroom w/Verandah $699, 3rd & 4th $299,
Child (3-12) $199, Infants (2 and under) pay port/gov't fees only
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Rates are subject to change, availability and eligibility. Additional per
adult charges apply if more than two adults (18 or older) per room. Advance
reservations are required.
DISNEY CRUISES: Rates are quoted in U.S. dollars per person (based on double
occupancy) and are subject to change, availability and eligibility. PORT
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new bookings only, are capacity controlled and may be withdrawn without
notice.
For more information on these and other specials, contact us at:
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(If) Someone was looking for a bed and breakfast in Montréal
Here is an address for a nice room near the University of Montréal
intraglobe@ videotron.ca
Gilles Bolduc

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. Smilies.
Heard over the air waves!

And from London tower controller to very senior British Airways
captain:
"Good touchdown, sir, but I believe you were a little left of
centreline."
"Thank you, you’re absolutely right, and my First Officer was a
tad to the right."

And from the Northeast U.S.:
"Mornin’ center, ABC123 Heavy checking in at 12,000 and 250kts
assigned."
"Roger ABC123 Heavy, cross DRESR at 9,000 reduce speed to
210kts."
"Cross DRESR at 9,000 slow to 210, ABC123 Heavy."
From unknown crew...
"Yeah, we have one of those [Cross Dresser] at our company
too."

And from the central U.S.:
"Afternoon approach, ABC123 checking in 10,000 210kts assigned
with Zulu
request 18L."
"Roger ABC123, good afternoon, unfortunately you don’t have
enough seniority to
hold 18L, expect the visual 18R."

And from India, where they use this as a classic example of
'standard
phraseology':
U.S. Fighter pilot to tower: "This is chrome-plated stove pipe,
triple nickel eight
ball, angels eight, five in the slot, boots on and laced, I
wanna bounce and blow.
Tower: "Roger you got the nod to hit the sod".

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