2001 Netletter #559 Feb 6th, 2001

#559 Feb 6th, 2001
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( For retirees of the new Air Canada family)

Number 559 Feb 6th, 2001,  We first Published in October 1995


Chief Pilot - Vesta Stevenson   -      Co-pilot  - Terry Baker

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We welcome -
Brent Kirkpatrick  retired CAIL Airworthiness Controller ;ives in Langley, BC
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Anthony Torchia retired Air Canada mechanic lives in Montreal, QC
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Bill Verran Retired_CAI Senior Instructor lives in Vancouver BC
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George Bromfield Retired AC Cargo Resources Manager lives in Toronto, ON
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Ray Wattier  AC Customer Sales and Service Agent YYZ, who is on the retirement
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Mary Hodgson Retired AC Teletype Operator then Cargo Agent YVR
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Byron Dale Retired AC General Claims Agent lives in Oakville, ON
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News from a CAIRE Chapter -
My name is Vern Swerdfeger, part of the Okanagan CAIRE group.
We have urged out 243 retirees in the valley to join the Pionairs.
One of the responses I received from a newsletter I sent out was the following.
I figured it should not be wasted.   It is from Edna Jack who lives in Vernon BC
and worked for me in YVR Res in about 1960.  Here is her letter.
"I started with the Airline industry during the war (then Trans-Canada Air Lines,
head office in Winnipeg 1941.) In 1942 the National film Board shot a 15 minute
movie of us loading and shipping the first airmail to go from Canada (YWG)
via Gander Nfld with the (very Modern) Beechcraft #39 to Gander then the
Lancaster Bomber to London. I was "the star" loading the bags. I  have the still
pictures of this event. When the war was over, all married workers had to give
up their jobs for the returning soldiers.(which was only right).
I then went with NorthWest Airlines for 3 years, then off to BC, due to family
problems. Then to CPA and Mr. Airline himself, Grant McConachie.
I hope everyone remembers Grant pioneered and started the TYO run, the HKG run,
the SYD run, AKL run, AMS run, And the MAD and ROM runs.
Yours truly - Edna Jack"
Edna later added the fact  that she did the loadsheet and other paperwork for
the first DC3 into Canada.
(Vern asked Edna for an email address, this is the response  -)
She called to give me her great grandsons email address.
It is  This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it .
She also advised that her name in the 1940's was Edna Ackerman so that
might shake some memories. She says she has lots of "stuff" and will bring the
pictures to our (CAIRE) lunch on Feb 21.
Vesta - our Chief pilot, adds this comment -

FYI that 15 min movie may still be available for personal viewing from the
National film Board Archives, which I think are in Ottawa or Toronto,
I'm not positive. They may even have a Web site on the internet.
About 15 years ago I was able to research and come up with a "treasure" of
one of our AC friends who did a spot film like that.  His was over St Hubert airport.
They loan them out to the public on a security deal of some sort, I think it was
an 8mm film and one can borrow the projector and get a license to run it from
a local public library.
I had a 1 min walk through at Transat airport in Dorval when the
'Come to Canada' fever was high and I had a swanky new fur coat to show off.<G>
how rich Canadians were. That would be in the 50's.
Vesta.

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. Found on the internet.
AIR CANADA said late on Thursday it is mulling talks with other
carriers about joining forces to launch a discount carrier in Canada
to serve the domestic and cross-border markets. "We are now
contemplating discussions, in discussions with people that have
approached us about participating with them in the formation of a
low-fare airline," Air Canada President and Chief Executive, Robert
Milton, told analysts during a conference call.

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. Remember when?
Rouyn Airport, QC. Trans-Canada Air Lines service with DC-3 began in Nov 1955,
introduces Vickers Viscount in 1958 and DC9 in 1974.
St Hubert Airport QC. In 1938, Trans-Canada Air Lines began services with
Lockheed Electra until the move to Dorval in 1941.
On Feb 4th 1962, Britannia CF-CZC of CPAir replaced DC6B on HNL-SYD route.
On 2nd Apr 1962, Britannia CF-CBZ of CPAir introduced Britannia service to
YVR-Whitehorse. This aircraft was written off at HNL 23/7/62.

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. In a recently read book "Flying the frontiers" -
Dawn Dawson was working for Range Airways out of Churchill MB doing aerial survey
work in 1963.  Piloting a super turbo-charged Apache between 18,000 and 25,000 ft.
"I was flying out of Edmonton at 23,000 ft'" she adds "We had arranged to have a
block of line that actually belonged to one of the present airways. I could hear
Air Canada take off with the DC-8, but they, of course, deviated and went around.
When one captain asked air traffic controller why he had to deviate, he was told that
we were doing some photography in the area. Then they called me to get my
position. The Air Canada captain heard a female voice on the air and asked,
quite incredulous, "Are you a girl?" I said "Yes, sir." "What are you flying?"
"An Apache." He comes back "No. no, they'll never believe this. A girl in
an Apache flying at 23,000, and I have to go around her!"
(Any Air Canada captain own up to this conversation? - eds)

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. Terry's travel tips.
Gary Johnson pointed out an error in the web site we quoted in
NetLetter nr 558 -  should be        www.bestpricedaccommodation.com
(Sorry readers, seems we missed a d after price - eds)

The Toronto Zoo offers active and retired Air Canada employees and family members
accompanying them, a 50% discount on the daily admission fee.
Present your employee/ID card and you'll be one of the who's who in the zoo.

Escape to the Cape!
The Capetown Interline Club plays host from May 11 - 16th.
Package includes -
Welcome cocktail, 4 days/5 nights in Cullinan Hotel, 5 full buffet breakfast
2 lunches, 1 afternoon tea, 3 dinners
2 full day tours Cape Point & Winelands, includes entrance fees.
2 half day tours Robben Island & the Cable Car includes entrance fees.
All this for us$440.00 pp dbl., extra nights B&B at us$40 pp dbl.
DEADLINE is March 1st.
Contact Alison Palmer, British Airways phone 27-21-683-4224
email This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it or your nearest Interline Club.

Tom Grant sends us this information -
I thought you may find this flight website interesting if you have any
friends/relatives in England who wish to fly to Canada, as sometimes they have
flights leaving on short notice for sometimes GBP70 or GBP80 rt. hard to belive
but true.
<http://www.cheapflights.co.uk>www.cheapflights.co.<http:/ <http://www.cheapflights.co.uk>www.cheapflights.co.<http://www.cheapflights. co.uk>uk      and <http://www.canadian-affair.com/fs-offers.htm>www.canadian-affair.com/fs-off ers.<http://www.canadian-affair.com/fs-offers.htm>htm

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. Smilie.
Found by Edie Etheridge LHR -
Comments from a travel agency -
A man called, furious about a Florida package we did. I asked what was wrong
with the vacation in Orlando. He said he was expecting an ocean view room.
When I tried to explain this was not possible as Orlando was in the middle of
Florida, he replied "Don't lie to me. I looked at a map and Florida is a very
thin state".

A woman called and said "I need to fly to Pepsi-Cola on one of those
computer planes." I asked if she meant to fly to Pensacola on a commuter
plane and she said "Yeah. Whatever."

Wulf Graunitz sends this -
There was one Airline abbreviation missing in that line-up:
BWIA - British Worst Investment Abroad

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